From dean@av8.com Tue May 11 18:44:18 2004 Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 18:13:10 -0500 (EST) From: Dean Anderson To: bill Subject: Re: Complaint regarding www.sorbs.net (204.152.186.189) (fwd) You've been notified about the abuse by your customer, ISC.ORG. Your failure to act properly and responsibly on that notice may be used to demonstrate that you are not a disinterested party in that abuse. We may use and publish the fact of your refusal to provide assistance regarding abuse by your customer and your misleading comments about your customer. I will have to find someone else to forward the complaint to ISC, and they will be notified by Mail and Fax. Dean Anderson CEO Av8 Internet, Inc On Fri, 16 Jan 2004, bill wrote: > > not interested. thanks. > > > > > > Handling the complaint about ISC. > > > > --Dean > > > > On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, bill wrote: > > > > > > > > what is the job? > > > > > > > > > > > What is your consulting rate? > > > > > > > > --Dean > > > > > > > > On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, bill wrote: > > > > > > > > > I mis-spoke. many of ep.nets customers are public exchange > > > > > operators. we also do consulting work and operate some > > > > > services that are used by many computers that connect to the > > > > > Internet. To become an ep.net customer, you need to enter > > > > > into a business relationship with ep.net. > > > > > > > > > > --bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Forwarded message: > > > > > > From bmanning Thu Jan 15 08:26:31 2004 > > > > > > From: bill > > > > > > Message-Id: <200401151626.i0FGQTR05108@karoshi.com> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Complaint regarding www.sorbs.net (204.152.186.189) (fwd) > > > > > > To: dean@av8.com (Dean Anderson) > > > > > > Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 08:26:29 -0800 (PST) > > > > > > Cc: bmanning@karoshi.com (bill) > > > > > > In-Reply-To: from "Dean Anderson" at Jan 15, 2004 11:18:18 AM > > > > > > X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6] > > > > > > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > become an operator of a public exchange point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do I become a customer of EP.NET? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Dean > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, bill wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 14 Jan 2004, bill wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no reason to act as your relay agent. We have no > > > > > > > > > > agreement in place for me to act in this manner. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The traceroute I forwarded shows that your IP addresses 198.32.176.4 is > > > > > > > > > assigned to ISC.ORG, which typically indicates a relationship. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > apparently your perception of "typical" does not > > > > > > > > apply here. the assertions you make in the remainder > > > > > > > > of your mail are based on false presumptions about > > > > > > > > what may or may not be valid provider/subscriber > > > > > > > > relationships between ep.net and its customers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you had a valid complaint about an ep.net customer > > > > > > > > or were an ep.net customer, then I could offer more > > > > > > > > help. As it stands there is nothing to be done here > > > > > > > > without a change in status. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >