From bmanning@karoshi.com Tue May 11 18:46:51 2004
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 08:32:38 -0800 (PST)
From: bill <bmanning@karoshi.com>
To: dean@av8.com
Cc:  bill  <bmanning@karoshi.com>
Subject: Re: Complaint regarding www.sorbs.net (204.152.186.189) (fwd)

	I mis-spoke.  many of ep.nets customers are public exchange
	operators. we also do consulting work and operate some 
	services that are used by many computers that connect to the
	Internet.  To become an ep.net customer, you need to enter
	into a business relationship with ep.net.

--bill


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> From bmanning  Thu Jan 15 08:26:31 2004
> From: bill  <bmanning@karoshi.com>
> Message-Id: <200401151626.i0FGQTR05108@karoshi.com>
> Subject: Re: Complaint regarding www.sorbs.net (204.152.186.189) (fwd)
> To: dean@av8.com (Dean Anderson)
> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 08:26:29 -0800 (PST)
> Cc: bmanning@karoshi.com (bill)
> In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0401151118050.20023-100000@vista.av8.net> from "Dean Anderson" at Jan 15, 2004 11:18:18 AM
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> 	become an operator of a public exchange point.
> 	
> 
> > 
> > How do I become a customer of EP.NET?
> > 
> > 		--Dean
> > 
> > On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, bill wrote:
> > 
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 14 Jan 2004, bill wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > 	I have no reason to act as your relay agent.  We have no
> > > > > 	agreement in place for me to act in this manner.
> > > >
> > > > The traceroute I forwarded shows that your IP addresses 198.32.176.4 is
> > > > assigned to ISC.ORG, which typically indicates a relationship.
> > >
> > > 	apparently your perception of "typical" does not
> > > 	apply here. the assertions you make in the remainder
> > > 	of your mail are based on false presumptions about
> > > 	what may or may not be valid provider/subscriber
> > > 	relationships between ep.net and its customers.
> > >
> > > 	If you had a valid complaint about an ep.net customer
> > > 	or were an ep.net customer, then I could offer more
> > > 	help. As it stands there is nothing to be done here
> > > 	without a change in status.
> > >
> > > --bill
> > >
> > 
> 

