From bmanning@karoshi.com Tue May 11 18:46:11 2004 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 12:21:08 -0800 (PST) From: bill To: Dean Anderson Cc: bill Subject: Re: Complaint regarding www.sorbs.net (204.152.186.189) (fwd) > > This was too cryptic to parse. Do you mean the mail does not bounce when > you forwarded this to abuse@isc.org? I have no reason to act as your relay agent. We have no agreement in place for me to act in this manner. > > Do you mean that you don't think the following activities (from XO's AUP) > violate your AUP? > > > > * Is unlawful, threatening, abusive, harassing, libelous, > > > defamatory, obscene, deceptive, fraudulent, invasive of another's > > > privacy, tortious, indecent, pornographic or inaccurate > > > > > > * Victimizes, harasses, degrades, or intimidates an individual or > > > group of individuals on the basis of religion, gender, sexual > > > orientation, race, ethnicity, age, disability or any other reason > > Or something else? > > I would also draw your attention that Vixie, in the guise of MAPS has > previously been found to conduct just such activity in Exactis V MAPS, and > was forced to stop. > > If you have an AUP, could you forward it to me? Our AUP applies to our customers and is available to them. > > Thanks, > > --Dean > > > On Wed, 14 Jan 2004, bill wrote: > > > > > does not seem like it does from here. > > > > > > > > > > > For similar reasons as XO, this is probably a violation of the EP.NET AUP, > > > though I couldn't find an AUP for EP.net. > > > > > > Dean Anderson > > > CEO > > > Av8 Internet, Inc > > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 13:09:28 -0500 (EST) > > > From: Dean Anderson > > > To: vixie@isc.org, abuse@isc.org > > > Subject: Complaint regarding www.sorbs.net (204.152.186.189) > > > > > > We see that you are providing services to SORBS.NET, which we understand > > > has been booted from some other providers for AUP violations. > > > > > > SORBS continues its defamation. It appears that Internet Software > > > Consortium is not an ISP. Are you a US agent for SORBS? > > > > > > Dean Anderson > > > CEO > > > Av8 Internet, Inc > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 18:19:55 -0400 (EDT) > > > From: Dean Anderson > > > To: abuse@xo.com > > > Subject: Complaint regarding www.sorbs.net (209.220.100.158) > > > > > > It is come to my attention that Matthew Sullivan, operator of SORBS.NET > > > is willfully, and maliciously making false statements through his > > > SORBS.NET site: > > > > > > http://www.dnsbl.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup?IP=130.105.0.0 > > > > > > > The full listing is: > > > > > > > > Netblock 130.105.0.0 / 16 > > > > Summary The OSF doesn't exist anymore, making this hijacked. > > > > Announced By [1784] Global NAPs Networks > > > > Entry Created Wed May 21 11:51:29 2003 AEST > > > > Record Updated Wed May 21 11:52:38 2003 AEST > > > > Currently active and flagged to be published in DNS > > > > Spam has not been received from this netblock. > > > > > > That The OSF no longer exists > > > That the 130.105/16 is hijacked > > > > > > Neither of these claims are true and are provably false. > > > > > > Dean Anderson, his companies Av8 Internet and Plain Aviation, 130.105/16, > > > and the OSF, are well known and easilly found. There is no possibility > > > that Mr. Sullivan could reasaonably have believed these statements true. > > > Therefore, the false statements are made with malice. > > > > > > These statements are made with the intent to cause economic harm to Dean > > > Anderson and his companies, and to interfere with contracts between his > > > companies and the OSF as well as contracts with current and future > > > customers. > > > > > > Wrongly calling an ASN or IP space hijacked may subject that person to a > > > lawsuit for tortious interference with a contract, defamation, commercial > > > disparagement, intentional and negligent misrepresentation, unfair > > > business practices, and false advertising in violation of the Lanham Act. > > > > > > We believe that this activity is in violation of your AUP, which prohibits > > > unlawful activity, and which is (from http://www.xo.com/legal) > > > > > > * Is unlawful, threatening, abusive, harassing, libelous, > > > defamatory, obscene, deceptive, fraudulent, invasive of another's > > > privacy, tortious, indecent, pornographic or inaccurate > > > > > > * Victimizes, harasses, degrades, or intimidates an individual or > > > group of individuals on the basis of religion, gender, sexual > > > orientation, race, ethnicity, age, disability or any other reason > > > > > > We ask that you take the appropriate action to halt this activity. > > > > > > We also note that 209.220.100.157 (www.isux.com) is operated by the same > > > person, and threatens mailbombing, which is also in violation of your AUP. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > Dean Anderson > > > President, Av8 Internet, Inc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >